On the evening of Fagan Vad 7th, Swami Ishwarcharandasji asked question in the assembly, “What is the meaning of experience knowledge according to the 7th Vachanamrut of Loya?” Bapashri replied, “To take the bliss of Murti by dwelling in Murti is experience knowledge. There is no end to the bliss of Murti. To take new happiness continuously is the experienced knowledge. Therefore the one who realizes experience knowledge is called Mukta. What if false is proved to be false but if true is proved to be false is said to be done false. Which is true and which is false – everything is false till Mul-Prakruti. Brahmkoti, Aksharkoti, luminescence of Shriji Maharaj infinite divinity are true. If one remains engrossed in Shriji Maharaj’s Murti leaving aside all, it can be said that what was to be understood is understood. The knowledge which is being told is of the bliss of Murti. Therefore, all the knowledge is not equal. The knowledge by which one proves false to be false is also a kind of knowledge. The other kind is to prove true to be false and even after reaching Murti to go in bliss and take happiness and to make firm donor-enjoyer and master-and his service and to know bliss as unlimited is called experienced knowledge. In Vachanamrut it is said that brahm kodal considers incarnations of Ram-Krushna as his glimpse. That brahm kodal is like a bull which has marks. The rituals are made false by brahm kodal, that sect is imaginary and its follower goes to hell.

Once again Swami said, “In the 7th Vachanamrut of Loya it has been said that when the knowledge of personified God is got in three ways through the senses, conscience and experience, ultimate liberation is possible. The one who has met God in the form of human being but he has not realized Him in His soul – whether does he get ultimate liberation or not?” Bapashri replied, “The one who has met personified God and he has known his greatness thoroughly, his salvation is there in the same way as the salvation of the one who has realized Him in His soul- such is the importance of meeting Him in the form of human being.” || 69 ||