In the evening of Vaishakh Sud 2nd Swami Ishwarcharandasji asked a question in the assembly, “I have to go Akshardham- what is the meaning of it?” Bapashri replied, “According to sakam devotee (acts bearing fruits) going is there,it is very far for him because he is extrovert, and for nishkam devotee (acts bearing no fruit) there is nothing like going or coming. Those who say going or coming are the words of this world.

Once again Swami asked, “How should we understand that there are supernatural powers on the path of Akshardham?” Bapashri said, “As and when one has started doing bhajan by accepting vows of vartman, he started on that path. On the path he gets honour, position, fame, reputation, divinity, popularity, etc. If he ignores all this and continues to go on the path, these powers will not be hurdle for him. But for sakam devotees these powers are hurdles.

Then Purani Dharmakishordasji asked, “Incarnated form of God is there on the earth. He knows Him as all powerful but he does not see the Murti in the soul. Whether is it called experience knowledge or not?” Bapashri replied, “The one who has such firm understanding does not see Murti in the soul even then it is experience knowledge.” || 45 ||